Of course I have bad things to say about Groove. Just not very often; and mostly in private, only occasionally hitting surface in a very tangential way when I'm at low ebb. Mostly, my dislikes are either incredibly specific - "hey, this doesn't work" - or too vague to write down without sounding like an incoherent freak. At least I'm on nobody's org-chart.

Tangentially, then. Is Groove vernacular? That's a relative term. How about dialectical? The vernacular - forged in the white heat dialectic of open development, say - seems at odds with building stuff in private (or is that, "in secret"?).

But, on the other hand, we're having lots of private conversations inside groove spaces (and I've made a point of connecting some of those to more public places, with groovelog / rendezvoo / easyweb - this will continue, likely with sharepoint and drupal). Those conversations aren't markets, yet. They're not secret societies, either. Here we're getting closer to Groove's big, under-discussed, challenge. Is it really OK to do stuff in private? I mean, to have conversations in private; to build code in private? Even in these times?

Yes.